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I wanted to take a moment and highlight Sethisto’s recent post over at Equestria Daily concerning the fan base and fan reactions to new episodes of My Little Pony.

Now, me, I happen to be a total nobody. I draw some stuff and spend most of my time just talking with awesome people and enjoying a sense of community with all you wonderful friends, bronies, and Equestrians.  But I have noticed, at least within the past month or so, a slow march away from all the good and noble and kind behavior that has been a hallmark of out fandom since its inception.   Specifically, this has been taking the form of pretty nasty and harsh criticisms of the show itself, from episode to episode.  I don’t know if this is coming from a sense of familiarity with the source material or perhaps it’s the fact the creators and producers have been so open to interacting with us that we are beginning to feel a false sense of ownership of the show.  Whatever the case, it’s not helpful, it’s not respectful, and if it continues it’s more than likely to drive a wedge between ourselves and the show we love.

Let’s face it, the amount of talent and hard work that Studio B puts into every episode is deserving of all our utmost respect and admiration. But of, course, that doesn’t mean it’s beyond artistic or cultural critique.   Is there room for criticism?  Certainly there is, and that’s not what I’m referring to.  Every individual has the right- and really the responsibility- as a fan to take part in that dialogue.  We each prefer one episode over another, support our favorite characters, and yammer on about the show with tremendous, unabashed enthusiasm and passion. Part of the fun in being a fan is discussing, critiquing, and picking apart every minor detail of the newest episode. 

But lately it seems like the fanbase is getting a little bit full of itself and becoming a bit demanding in terms of what we want to see in the show.  Many of the responses to new episodes and news about the show have been downright hateful.   Add to that the constant chorus of “Oh no, some internal thing happened at Studio B!  the show is now RUINED FOREVER!” and you have a situation that makes it less and less likely the incredibly talented folks behind the show will want anything to do with their fans. 

So far, the folks behind MLP:FIM have been unbelievably gracious and kind in reaching out to us. I don't want to see that relationship sour with us as fans acting like jerks and generally making selfish assumptions about who really "owns" the show and its characters.  Truth be told, we're tremendously fortunate to be part of this fandom at this time. It's a golden age for creativity and feedback and positivity. Let's strive to keep it that way and continue to represent the best aspects and lessons of the show we love.

While this is a show for little girls, I think it behooves us all to act liked adults and do our best to represent the best aspects of ourselves and the show.  We can disagree, we can critique, we can argue, and we can debate all while remaining cordial and respectful.  Honestly, that should apply to our interactions with one another as well as with the show and its creators. 

Each of us is here for the same reason- the love of the show.  Certainly, we each feel a sense of ownership to the fandom and our place within it.  But I’ve always felt that we also have a responsibility to be the best fans we can be, to keep the lines of communication and respect open.  To make sure that the folks at Hasbro and Studio B can look at their fans and see a group that is approachable and embodies, whenever possible, the lessons and themes of the show itself.  I could be wrong, and it’s certainly just my opinion.  But in a year, in five years, in ten years even, I want to be proud to have taken part in this little fandom, and I want to truly believe that I had a part in making it the very best experience for everyone else who loves My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic as much as I do.    

I hope this little rant doesn't hurt or offend anyone.  I just wanted to get a few things off my chest and encourage folks to...well, to just be excellent to each other!
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Charlesdeleroy Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
The show will only be ruined forever if Snookie or Justin Beiber somehow become involved.

In that circumstance, I shall become a believer in the Mayan Apocalypse.
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Juria316 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2011
:iconbravoplz: Well said. I do recognize that, no matter how great we as a fanbase are, we're going to have our unsavory members. Let us just hope that we outweigh them to the point where we can stay united.
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ArtieStroke Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
"...and party on dude!"

Ah, Bill and Ted... anyways, I'm getting off topic. I totally agree; I didn't join this fandom to be surrounded by big, dumb meanies. I joined it from a sense of serenity that surrounded it, of child-like kindness. All this discord amongst the fans just upsets me. Hopefully, people will come to their senses soon. But good on you for calling them out. Thanks for that.

(By the way, just recently listened to the Bronyville episode with you in it. Very nice!)
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TheLordOfDust Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2011
Uhh, I hope you weren't thinking of some of our reviews when you were writing this. :(

I don't really get into any discussion threads much so I hadn't really experienced any of this super hate. While there were a few episodes this season that I thought were sub par, I'm looking at you Cutie Pox, I haven't really hated any of them. Besides, after Sweet and Elite I feel the episodes are back on track.

If you're going to get super offended that an episode didn't play out the way you wanted, well then you need to get an attitude adjustment and just try to enjoy the pony. Everything I do in this fandom I do because it's supposed to be fun. When something stops being fun, then it's time to stop. If your getting upset and unruly because of a few episodes then maybe you'd be better off leaving now and letting the rest of us live in peace.
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str4yk1tt3n Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2011
Darn straight.
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Sibsy Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Thanks...we really do appreciate it here over on the production end.
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Dauntess Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
There has been a massive swirl of negativity recently which completely contradicts the show! There is another problem I have noticed recently as well, I myself am a collector and fan of all the different pony generations but it seems everywhere there is something non g4 there are always several bronies there using profanity and other terms like "abomination" to describe it! It just makes me so sad. Nobody is forcing them to like it but can't they follow the spirit of the show and try to at least respect the older gens?
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Ellofri Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2011
I think you've said it better than anyone else has so far.
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CartoonNinja Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2011
I will admit, things have seemed a little... touchy lately. It's a spectacular show, but it's still a show, and one meant for a much younger demographic. There aren't exactly any conspiracy theories, and fights against the very incarnations of darkness and chaos is reserved for the start of the season; we need to get used to the slice-of-life stuff again.
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Nun2artzy Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I think those months of awesome fanfiction and stellar art built up a hype so large no one could fill the hooves we made. I personally love the show, and am confident since its inception that each episode is an excellent example of flash animation. Room for improvement is always there, and to simply say something is good without offering any feedback isn't helpful.

I completely agree with this post. Here-here!
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darkwee009 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2011
I don't go to Equestira Daily that often, so this is new to me, but then again I'm not that surprised.

A fandom as big as FiM is gonna have their Fan Dumb, as we tropers like to call them. However, I don't think we're getting to Sonic levels. We're gonna have to do something REALLY stupid to become like Sonic fanbrats.

Still, I find it amazing how some people are actually criticizing the newer episodes. I thought they were all excellent. Come on people, it's a kids show. Yes the show is also made for adults so they can watch it without getting annoyed by the cutieness, but it's still a kids show.
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Madevil8 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2011
Can someone explain me what happened ? i'm lack of information right now.[link]
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ROBCakeran53 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2011
Very well said Pixel. I thought about making a journal about this too, but hell, you did it for me. Thanks! XD
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KeybladeKnight99 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Student Writer
Its usually a very small, extremely vocal minority, that causes the most trouble on the internet. Personally, for those who are "complaining" I think its because they think (In their silly, twisted minds) that season 2 was going to be like all of the fan fictions that make the show something that its never going to be. Not that the fan fictions aren't awesome for creating stories that take the characters from the show in a new and interesting direction, but I think some people are hating on Season 2 because "Its not what they would done". But they forget the reason they fell in love with the show in the first place is because it was something they never expected, and not because it had something that season 2 now lacks.
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Gibralter42 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
Preach on pega-sister! I'm right behind you.
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DemonPanther Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
I am going to say this... this whole situation amounts to the old saying "Give them an inch and they'll take a mile."
By allowing fans to somehow influence the show, some people have taken it too far :(
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BronyBeforePony Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What a well written call to reason.
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Malkmusian Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Student Writer
Truest statement of the year, Pixel. Now, here are my thoughts on the fanbase eating itself up:


To the idiots in the fanbase who complain about every episode not being good:

Of course season two isn't gonna live up to the hype we created - it's not like the writers have to comply to our demands (they have another target audience too: kids). Of course, I don't really think the writing's as snappy, but at the same time, a bad episode of MLP: FiM is better than a good episode of Robot Chicken. Hell, even in episodes I don't care for all that much (Mare Do-Well; Cutie Pox), there's still a lot of charm in these characters. Even if they say stuff I know is embarrassing, I just love how the VAs play off of themselves. We should be thankful we have these episodes and not be all like "oh no these episodes sound too implausible and kiddy to ever happen."

Meghan, Lauren, Rob, Jayson, and all the others who make this product have to make something for kids. They can't suddenly switch gears and make a show for college students and young adults. However, they can compromise - they can sneak in a couple of references to some things kids shouldn't watch until their 17. However, if the fanbase thinks that Studio B's gonna write a parody of "Irreversible" and subject its initial fanbase to things that would most likely haunt their nightmares for years to come, they're wrong. They want the show their way, but here's a little bit of tough love: it ain't gonna happen your way. The world isn't about you. If you want to see Rainbow Dash beating up Discord with a fire extinguisher, then make it yourself. If you want to see pony episodes that only consist of pop cultural references, then you can write it. But you're not gonna sway a bunch of hard-working writers and animators to make the show your way.

Fan service is wrong. Of course, I want to see a break from all the Derpy cameos, but at the same time, she does keep us occupied. But if you're still adamant about convincing Lauren that she has to be "Derpy the mailmare with a kid she's trying so hard to take care up...and Amy Pond/River Song/Sarah Jane in horse form," then give it up. There is a reason why Encyclopedia Dramatica doesn't like you guys - and they're vidya-playing people who are tired of this insane stupidity and fanbase cannibalism.

If you want to be considered good people, then suck it up. The writers don't listen to you - sure, they've taken one or two cues from you, but they're not gonna shoehorn every mini-fad this show has spawned. The animators will do what they do - if one of them wants to add in Pixel just for shits and giggles, let him do it, but don't praise it like "oh my god these people really like us." Hell, judging by some of Lauren's responses to the whole thing, it seems like she's a little shocked that the thing she thought had class and an ability to forever change the idea of Internet memes is now (drumroll, plz) a monster. So, if you don't like the episode, you can criticize it, but don't say "oh my god these writers are terrible b'awwwwww my favorite show has jumped the shark."

Ponies are not srz bzns.
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Charlesdeleroy Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
Eh, this is what you get with 30-some-year-old unemployed geeks living in their parents' basements.

I live on the second floor and have a job! Therefore I like all da Pony! :3
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SirPeppermintJam Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I hate to break it to you, but if our fandom keeps going like this(and trust me, it will), by the time Season three rolls around, we'll be as hated as the sonic fandom. You're right in what you say, but the general face of our fanbase is full-on creepy.

Sorry if this seems pessimistic, but when you got people arguing with others about their preferred pairing, then it's a sign that shit's close to hitting the fan.
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amimizunofan22 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Your words frighten and sadden me. Nonetheless, I will dwell within the remaining core of the rational faithful probably for years to come.

On the flip side, I think there's a bit of the whole "vocal minority" thing going on. I realize that the number of discontented is gradually growing (though so is the fanbase in general), but for the most part, I believe that most of the fanbase is still decently reasonable. It's just that the type of people who leave comments or start discussions are often the ones who have stronger feelings on particular matters. Sadly, this trait seems more prevalent in those who hold negativity in their hearts than those who are still committed to good, and so that's what we (and people outside our fanbase, unfortunately) see more often.

Of course, I could just be a fool or be barking up the wrong tree, but I like to hope that things aren't quite as bad as they seem.
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SirPeppermintJam Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sorry, bro. I was just putting in my own two cents.

You should totally remain hopeful, though. I could be terribly wrong.
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amimizunofan22 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Pshaw, no need to apologize. It was just your observation, straight up.

I hope so (meant in the best way possible)...
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SirPeppermintJam Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah...

Whoa, I just realized that this comment is kinda old.

How'd you find it?
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amimizunofan22 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Haha, well, someone linked to this journal entry in the comments section of ROBCakeran53's most recent one that is basically about the same thing. I decided to check it out and just went through the first page of comments. I actually kind of wondered if you would find it odd that I was responding a month and a half later. :XD:
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SirPeppermintJam Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A little, but it's all good.
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Plantress Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Student Writer
I have to agree with you and say thank you for putting something like this up. I'm really more of a background fan of the show. I don't draw or write ponies, but I do watch every episode when it comes out, and look for fanart/fanfiction. I just lurk silently in the fandom really, and I see so much truth about what you have said.

There are some overzealous fans that I really don't want to get to know because they have such a sense of entitlement about the show. It's like the completely forgot Friendship is Magic's target audience is little girls, and get offended whenever the show does something to remind them of that. Just because they put in more Derpy for the fans doesn't mean they're going to change the whole show because of a surprise demographic.
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vixzvile Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
Ponies like you DO make the fandom a pleasure to be a part of. Rational, nice, and respectful. This recent lack of respect is something I hope starts receding, for the community's sake and the show's.

People also need to remember, EVERY SHOW no matter how great will have episodes you don't like or like less. That doesn't mean the show is ruined. Not everything has to be gold. And raging at the people who make the show, especially when they are so into the community like MLP, will not help make your case.

In actuality, that's one of the reasons I'm a Brony and love MLP:FiM. I'm amazed by how many great episodes there really were in the first season! It was like a whole season of gold, which is rare for ANY show.

I guess in my long draw-out way, I'm saying I agree >.< lol.
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Tekaramity Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
I admit that I haven't been well able to keep up with the general fanbase perception of the show these past few months, but I certainly agree with your sentiments here, Pixel. Now, I *do* feel it is justifiable to constructively criticize when a situation calls for it - but, as others have said, "this isn't the Sonic fanbase" (thank GOD) and we should all be rational & calm enough to withhold our knee-jerk reactions and discuss this awesome show in a much more grateful manner. The idea is indeed to love and tolerate, exemplifying the standards that the show is demonstrating to us. I've made such wonderful friends among the people in this fanbase, and I wouldn't trade any of 'em for anything. ^^

I wouldn't trade you either, Pixel! :heart: You're far, far, far from a "nobody" - you are a beacon and a shining starlet. Please, continue to be 127% awesome, my friend. :hug: Hugs and all my love to you!
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Khuur Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
I'm certain what happens next will be interesting, but what is all this about the Sonic fanbase? Apparently, before MLP, I found myself in corners of the internet neither influenced, or noticing of it.

Anyway, I must agree with you as well, Pixel. While there may be certain aspects of certain episodes I do not particularly enjoy, I am not going to act as if I should have any say over them, or that they should have been done differently. If I could, I would be the one making the series! We (generalising) are here because we want to be, because we like the show and love the community, and can appreciate it for everything that it is, not what it could, or perhaps should, or shouldn't, be.
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Tekaramity Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
The Sonic fanbase is rife with petty bickering, "shipping" catfights, general emo-osity, and a pervasive atmosphere of disquieting discomfort. I like the Sonic games and universe in general, but I refuse to mingle with the majority of the Sonic crowd. Certainly, some folk within that fanbase are sterling indeed - but the bad apples, as it were, are nevertheless quite numerous and toxic.

Also, hiya soth~ :hug: Always a joy to see you around, friend. =)
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Khuur Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
Hmm.

It's nice to see you as well. I do await the continuation of our Skype conversation.
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mistypine01 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Brohoof dear. I couldn't agree with you more.
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anzul Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Student General Artist
theres one thing left to do....
lets bury those bad comentaries whit our own comentaries and point of views!!!, HeCK! i may do a youtube account :D



yhea, i draw crazyness, and i tink is to taly unrelated....
sorry for that :(
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DaisyAzuras Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I personally think that as a fan you should not hate an episode but rather love one more than another. Pointing out mistakes lightheartedly is okay as long as you don't act nasty about it. I myself like to point out mistakes but only so that the artist can correct them. I always point out the positive aspects of a work too. I also end it by reminding the artist that these are my opinions and that they don't really matter if everypony loves their work as it stands.
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DaisyAzuras Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I love story. That said, I don't understand why people have to pick apart things in a negative way. I prefer to pick at the possibilities hidden within the episode. Besides, the show is all for fun. The only real serious stories that come out of MLP are the fan fics that take the super dramatic side like Past Sins and Fallout Equestria. The real show is just a nice place to go to forget your worries and to be reminded that life is supposed to be fun and filled with love and happiness. At least I think that's what it should be. How do you feel Pixel?
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HealingBlight Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011
People -REALLY- thought Mare-Do-Well would not be the Mane6? Seriously they are too caught up in their own headcannon to think straight.
I'm sure a lot of the main demographic, younger girls, would not have jumped to much than any other conclusion.

The level of devotion from the herd, we don't own the show, the show owns us. :P
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Chromadancer Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're far from being a "total nobody" believe me, if anypony here fits that description it's me :)

Fully agreed on most of your comments here. I've watched the community start to change for the worse and I'm not happy about it. And some of the more vocal elements are doing really stupid things (like asking questions to Andrea Libman that don't need to be asked). Bleg.
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Sirkylanthered Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011
*brohoof* Wise Pixel is wise. This is the same problem that has happened with so many sub culture fandoms over the years. It gets a great start, its welcoming, loving, and even surprising in the way it breaks the social ideas of a sub fandom. But then a few people (or ponies) come around and start yelling at the top of their lungs their opinions and damn if its offensive, because to them its their right of free speech to act like idiots. The really sad thing is that the are merely the minority with the loudest voice, or the one's that the media loves to show because they make the best headlines "Bronies lash out at little girl's cartoon show." The point is these people are not, and should not, be our voice. They are the smallest part of us and, for everypony's sake, need to be kept in their place. And the best way of doing that is to continue to love the show, and give massive thanks to the team that keep it going. I mean its not like MLP has jumped the shark at all, its better than ever. But do as the wise art goddess says and things should be fine ^^ Just take ownership of your behavior and think "If I was a creator on this show how would I want my fans to react?"
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deniseunicorn Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011
Well said..
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ZeroPegasi Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
There have been many shows that have gone through a large change (mostly due to fan input) and this has not always been the best for many fans, each one has a differnt likes and dislikes and you can never please everyone.
Perhaps as they see the show got so much of a following that being so open to the fandom has responded with the current season verious nods to the fandom

not everyone will like it for what ever the reason, but many will
Your right have to be more grown up about this, enojoy it and pass on to our kids so they can too experiance what brought us joy and happieness
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BlackWidower Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Professional Writer
I would never say I own the show, or that they owe me anything, and so far, I have not seen anything that makes me hate it. But I have been critical of it...because I love it.

"Criticism is a powerful force for good! Nothing ever improves without coming to terms with its flaws. Without critics telling us what's stupid and what isn't, we'd all be wearing boulders for hats and drinking down hot ebola soup for tea. No, being a harsh critic doesn't automatically lead me towards evil. It's my cannibalism that does that." - Yahtzee

I hold the show to a high standard, so I look for things to complain about. If that's a bad thing, then we are doomed as a society.

*read the rest*

Okay, I know exactly what you're talking about. I remember making a comment as a joke about Derpy:

"Next episode of My Little Pony: Derpy reveals her hatred of muffins."

Unfortunately I can't find the exact quote due to the shitty way DeviantArt is designed...anyway, people reacted as if I just killed someone. It was ridiculous. So your preconceived notions were demolished. Isn't that how most, if not all, of us became fans of the show? Our preconceived notions that MLP was shit, were demolished as we began to love it? Why would that suddenly become a bad thing?
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iisaw Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011
*applause*

As a wise, old internet meme once said, "It's okay to not like things... but don't be a dick about it."
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Holy-Sparks Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your words warm my heart.. I saw that too, and unfortunately some even coming from influent characters of the fandom...

And don't say you are a total nobody! You are pretty important! As a brony, artist and person!
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Orange-Fox17 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, you bring up a good point, BUT... and I know your not going to like this, three words - BASE ANIMAL INSTINCT! Humans at the end of the day are STILL animals and base instincts like selfishness and greed are still strong in us! Why do you think there are soo many problems with this world! I'm sorry, but that's the truth! :(
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anzul Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Student General Artist
so your point is.... that we can blame them(bad bronies) for being jerks??
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Saphin Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011
I think part of it has to do with the fact that our fandom has gotten SO huge SO quickly. In all fandoms there are those that cry "fowl play" at everything. They're unfortunately usually the ones crying the loudest.

Generally, from what I've seen, a lot of people are of the same mindset of yourself. The show is great and we should respect the creators for bringing us so much pony (as well as being so kind to communicate with us as often as they do).

also, kudos for the Bill and Ted reference.
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Drake2010 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Even though I'm still upset that Trixie won't be making an appearance (only mentioned by name in a comment) you don't see me bitching about it. So yeah, I agree with you there.
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BoneSatellite Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011
Halfway through I started reading this in Trixie's voice. :icontrixieumadplz:

You know what? Lauren Faust made an episode that put the producers in their place, the MLP team could do the same for the fans! The mane six are allowed to participate creatively in a stage performance and are blown away by the chance, but when the performer(s) do some things they don't approve of, they act like jerks. Now that would be the best episode ever: a whole twenty-two minutes dedicated to the fanbase for the purpose of demonstrating our behavior.
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tamanou Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011
Yeah, it's rather disrespectful and rather annoying if you come there to shoot the breeze about your favorite cartoon, but while it might be wrong, this behaviour is so common I have come to accept it. Especially from the stereotypical brony, who to me is a nerdy man in his early twenties who spends all his time online (no offense intended, since I only differ from that by being in my early forties instead), a social group that devotes a lot of time to arguing. Fandoms are quite often dominated by angry entitled nitpickers. While it might be a disappointment that this also includes the fandom of a work which is supposedly about friendship and tolerance, it shouldn't come as a surprise.
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